Mic has secondary hypogonadism - the cause is unknown, but as a teenager
he was not physically developing normally. His endocrinologist asked him
to choose, either to wait and see or to kill the function of the pituitary
gland. He chose the second option. Since then he has been taking a
monthly testosterone injection. Mic is now 48 and I am 39.
When we decided to try to have children in early 2009, we saw Mic's
endocrinologist, who advised us the following:
1. Stop the testosterone for 2 months
2. After that, take injections of Pregnyl (HCG) 1500 3 times per week
for 3 months.
3. Check-up after that before going on to the next stage.
He did those things, although he could not find Pregnyl 1500, so took
half of a 5000 ampule twice per week starting from 6th March 2009.
The doctor then advised him to stop the Pregnyl and start injections of
Menogon (75 LH & 75 FSH) twice weekly. He did that for 3 months
starting on 20th July 2009 but felt as if there was something
wrong. He became very tired and his libido was zero. Sperm count was also
zero.
We then consulted another endocrinologist, who advised taking both
Pregnyl (1500 iu, 3 x per week) and Menogon (150 iu, 3 x per week). He
did that since 1st October
2009, but when he had a sperm count test at the end of December, the result
was still zero.
We then went to an RE who advised increasing the dosage to Menogon 75 x
3, 3 times per week, plus pregnyl 5000 once per week. He did this from 18th April 2010 and continued on
this dosage until February 2012. We decided to try IVF as soon as
possible, and on the advice of the RE booked our first IVF session for late
July 2010. He did another sperm count test on 4th August 2010 and the
result was again zero. The RE decided to do sperm aspiration, and some sperm
were found in the operation. In all subsequent IVF attempts, sufficient
sperm was found in the ejaculate and so PESA was not performed.
And here are the
gory details of all our IVF attempts!
IVF # 1, July 2010, antagonist protocol.
30th July 2010 started stims
30th July 2010 started stims
4th August
US & BW- normal
5th August
US - 2 follicles ready, 5 more almost there
6th August
trigger shot
8th August
ER, 7 eggs retrieved & PESA - sperm found.
9th August
2 embryos fertilized by ICSI.
10th August
Transferred 2 (grade 1) 4-cell embryos on day 2
22nd August
Beta: negative
IVF # 2, September 2010, short protocol.
17th Sept 2010
1st u/s & bloodwork, shot of decapeptyl 0.1mg
18th Sept
started stims, gonal-f 75x3
daily and decapeptyl 0.1.
23rd Sept
u/s, 7 follicles all 14-16
26th Sept
trigger at 1am
27th Sept
ER. Mic’s SA
positive. 9 eggs collected, 6 mature ICSI’d
28th Sept
1 fertilized with ICSI.
29th Sept
Transferred 1 (grade 1) 6-cell
embryo on day 2
11th Oct
Beta: negative
RPL Testing: antiphospholipid profile, Factor V Leiden, Factor II Prothrombin G20210A mutation, MTHFR C677T mutation, NK cells. All normal.
IVF#3 - February 2011, long protocol.
20th January
2011 decapeptyl 3.75 shot
1st Feb baseline appointment
2nd Feb started stims 4 x
Merional
12th Feb ER. Mic's SA positive.
7 eggs retrieved, 5 mature ICSI'd.
13th Feb 1 fertilized with ICSI, but late (around 11.30am)
14th Feb Transferred 1 (grade 1) 4-cell embryo on day 2
24th Feb period started
26th Feb Beta: negative
New clinic, new RE. Recommends hysteroscopy.
March 2011 - hysteroscopy: normal
IVF#4 – May 2011, short protocol. New clinic, RE
no.2
12th May 2011 started stims 4 x Merional
23rd May Trigger
25th May ER. 11 eggs retrieved, all mature
26th May 8 fertilized with ICSI
28th May transferred 5 top quality embryos with Assisted Hatching on day 3. Others
unfreezable.
8th June
Beta: negative
IVF#5 – July 2011, short protocol. RE no.2
12th July
2011 started stims 4 x Merional
25th July Trigger
27th July ER, 10 eggs retrieved
28th July 8 fertilized with ICSI
30th July transferred 6 top quality embryos with Assisted Hatching on day 3. Others
unfreezable.
8th Aug started spotting
10th Aug Beta: negative
Clinic no.3. Mic advised to take Vitamale for 3 months and then freeze
as much sperm as we like. We froze 12 vials in total (10 at clinic no.3 and 2
frozen before at clinic no.2)
IVF#6 – January 2012, long protocol. New
clinic, RE no.3
29th Dec 2011 2/3 of decapeptyl
3.75 shot.
12th Jan 2012
started stims: 5 x Menogon 75.
22nd Jan last stims, 2 x Menogon 75. Trigger at 9pm
24th Jan ER, 14 eggs retrieved. Fresh sperm used.
25th Jan 7 fertilized
with ICSI
29th
Jan transferred 1 blast and 2 late morulas on day 5. Nothing left to freeze.
6th
Feb
started spotting
9th Feb
beta negative
11th Feb
period started properly.
February 2012 - Mic stops menogon and pregnyl shots and goes back to
Testosterone. Sperm will die soon so relying on frozen from now on.
20th February 2012 - Endometrial Biopsy no.1
1st March 2012 - Endometrial Biopsy no.2
IVF#7 - March 2012, short protocol. RE no.3
12th March 2012 Started stims: 4 x Merional
and 4 x Gonal-F (600iu total)
16th March Dose
reduced to 450iu.
20th March Trigger
22nd March ER, 10
eggs retrieved. Both fresh and frozen sperm used for ICSI.
23rd March 2
fertilized with ICSI
26th March
Transferred 1 4-cell and 1 5-cell on day 3.
7th April Spotting and HPT negative
8th April beta negative
IVF#8- April 2012, short protocol. RE no.3
9th April 2012 Decapeptyl 0.1
10th April
Started stims: Menogon x 8 (600iu)
20th April
Trigger
22nd April
ER, 16 eggs retrieved. Frozen sperm used.
23rd April
8 fertilized with ICSI.
24th April
1 more fertilized, that makes 9!
27th April
5 still going. Transferred 2 blasts and a pre-morula on day 5. Froze 2
morulas.
5th May
8dp5dt. I think it's all over. Bleeding and a negative HPT.
8th May
Faint BFP on HPT
9th May
Beta 418
15th May
bleeding scare. Another beta. 7732.
16th May
U/s at 5w3d. Gestational sac and yolk sac seen. Perfect.
17th May
More bleeding, this time bright red. Did another u/s at a nearby clinic.
Everything still on track. Bed rest for 3
days.
I had bleeding on and off until about 15 weeks, and an amniocentesis, but otherwise had a completely normal pregnancy. My son's birth was complicated and eventually it was a forceps delivery with a 3rd degree tear and an episiotomy. I have literally suffered from pain ever since, and even an operation to re-do the repair didn't fix whatever happened. But it was completely worth it, of course, and I'd do it all again in a wink.
Talking of which....
FET#1 - Feb/March 2014, RE no.3
12th February 2014 Started estrofem orally 3 x daily
24th February Lining not looking great. Added estrofem vaginally 1 x daily
10th March Lining still not right, neither thickness nor structure. FET cancelled.
FET#1 (take 2) - April 2014, RE no.3
25th March 2014 Started estrofem orally 3 x daily
27th March Added estrofem vaginally 1 x daily
13th April FET. We had 2 morulas but one didn't survive the thaw, so we transferred the one we had.
24th April Beta BFN
I had bleeding on and off until about 15 weeks, and an amniocentesis, but otherwise had a completely normal pregnancy. My son's birth was complicated and eventually it was a forceps delivery with a 3rd degree tear and an episiotomy. I have literally suffered from pain ever since, and even an operation to re-do the repair didn't fix whatever happened. But it was completely worth it, of course, and I'd do it all again in a wink.
Talking of which....
FET#1 - Feb/March 2014, RE no.3
12th February 2014 Started estrofem orally 3 x daily
24th February Lining not looking great. Added estrofem vaginally 1 x daily
10th March Lining still not right, neither thickness nor structure. FET cancelled.
FET#1 (take 2) - April 2014, RE no.3
25th March 2014 Started estrofem orally 3 x daily
27th March Added estrofem vaginally 1 x daily
13th April FET. We had 2 morulas but one didn't survive the thaw, so we transferred the one we had.
24th April Beta BFN
IVF#9 (Or 2.1) - May 2014, RE no.3
1st May 2014 Started decapeptyl 0.1
2nd May Started Stims: Menopur 75 x 8 daily and half decapeptyl 0.1.
11th May Trigger 8pm, pregnyl
13th May ER, 16 eggs retrieved
14th May 10 fertilized with frozen sperm
15th May 7 still going: 3 good and 4 medium. I decided to risk it and wait till day 5.
18th May 2 left, one early blast and one morula. Transferred both on day 5.
27th May HPT negative
29th May Beta negative
IVF#10 (Or 2.2) - November 2014, RE no.3, center no.4
12th November 2014 Started decapeptyl 0.1
13th Nov Started Stims: Menogon 75 x 8 daily and decapeptyl 0.1
16th Nov Decapeptyl down to half an ampule
20th Nov Last stims x 8 and 1/2 deca. Trigger 10.30pm
22nd Nov ER, 8 eggs retrieved
23rd Nov 4 fertilized with frozen sperm (2 vials used)
25th Nov 4 still going. 2 x 8-cell excellent, 2 x 6-cell, one fragmented and one good. Transferred all 4.
6th December Beta #1: 8 (8dp3dt)
8th December Beta #2: 32
9th December Beta#3: 50
11th December Beta #4: 112
14th December Beta #5: 75. Chemical.
IVF#11 (Or 2.3) - January 2015, RE and center no.4
16th January 2015 Started decapeptyl 0.1
17th Jan Decapeptyl down to 1/2 ampule
18th Jan Started Stims: Menogon 75 x 6 daily and 1/2 decapeptyl.
27th Jan last decapeptyl and Trigger (2 x pregnyl) 10:30pm
29th Jan ER, 7 eggs retrieved, 5 mature
30th Jan 3 fertilized with frozen sperm (1 vial used)
1st Feb ET of remaining 2, 1 x 4-cell and 1 x 2-cell. Zero hope.
14th Feb Beta negative
17th Feb AF started.
IVF#12 (or 2.4) - February 2015. RE and center no.4
18th February 2015 Started Decapeptyl 0.1 half ampule.
19th Feb Started stims: Menogon 75 x 8 daily and 1/2 Decapeptyl.
1st March Trigger (2 x pregnyl)
3rd March ER, 5 eggs retrieved, 3 mature
4th March 2 fertilized with frozen sperm (1 vial used)
7th March ET of 1 perfect morula and one "more than 10 cells"
19th March Beta negative
22nd March AF started.
IVF#13 (or 2.5) - March 2015. RE no.2 again
23rd March 2015 Hysteroscopy done. Started stims: Merional 75 x 6 daily.
27th March Added cetrotide
2nd April Trigger (1 x pregnyl)
4th April ER, 10 eggs retrieved, 6 mature
6th April 1 fertilized with frozen sperm (1 vial used)
7th April Another one fertilized. ET of 1 x 4-cell and 1 x 6-cell
18th April Beta 111
20th April Beta 286
22nd April Beta 656
26th April Ultrasound showed tiny, tiny gestation al sac. Beta 1363 (doubling time 90 hours)
28th April Beta 1905 (doubling time 99 hours)
3rd May Ultrasound showed nothing. Natural miscarriage a few days later.
IVF#14 (or 2.6) - September 2015. RE no. 4 again
16 September 2015 Started stims: Gonal F x 225 plus Merional 225 daily.
22nd Sept Added cetrotide
24th Sept Trigger
26th Sept ER, 7 eggs retrieved, 3 mature
27th 1 fertilized with frozen sperm (1 vial used), another 1 fertilized later
Nothing left by day 5.
IVF 15 (or 2.7) - November 2015. RE no. 4 again
3 November 2015 Started stims. Menogon 450. Antagonist protocol
13 November Trigger
15 November ER, 8 eggs retrieved, 6 mature
16 November 5 fertilized
19 November ET of 3 grade 1 morulas and 1 8-cell.
30 November Beta #1: 148
2 December Beta #2: 395 (33 hour doubling time)
5 December Beta #3: 906 (60.5 hour doubling time)
16 December U/sn: one healthy bean with a good heartbeat!
Delivered our second boy in a planned CS in August 2016.
IVF 16 (or 3.1) - August 2018. RE no. 4 again
9 August 2018 Started stims. 4 x menogon and 2 x Ovaclomin, aspirin after AF.
14 August Increased Menogon to 6, plus estrofem x 2
15 August Added orgalutran shot daily
18 August 4 x menogon and increased estrofem to 3 x daily. Trigger: 3 x Ovitrelle 250.
20 August ER, 5 eggs retrieved, 3 mature
22 August Fert report, 1 fertilized.
25 August No transfer, embryo arrested.
1st May 2014 Started decapeptyl 0.1
2nd May Started Stims: Menopur 75 x 8 daily and half decapeptyl 0.1.
11th May Trigger 8pm, pregnyl
13th May ER, 16 eggs retrieved
14th May 10 fertilized with frozen sperm
15th May 7 still going: 3 good and 4 medium. I decided to risk it and wait till day 5.
18th May 2 left, one early blast and one morula. Transferred both on day 5.
27th May HPT negative
29th May Beta negative
IVF#10 (Or 2.2) - November 2014, RE no.3, center no.4
12th November 2014 Started decapeptyl 0.1
13th Nov Started Stims: Menogon 75 x 8 daily and decapeptyl 0.1
16th Nov Decapeptyl down to half an ampule
20th Nov Last stims x 8 and 1/2 deca. Trigger 10.30pm
22nd Nov ER, 8 eggs retrieved
23rd Nov 4 fertilized with frozen sperm (2 vials used)
25th Nov 4 still going. 2 x 8-cell excellent, 2 x 6-cell, one fragmented and one good. Transferred all 4.
6th December Beta #1: 8 (8dp3dt)
8th December Beta #2: 32
9th December Beta#3: 50
11th December Beta #4: 112
14th December Beta #5: 75. Chemical.
IVF#11 (Or 2.3) - January 2015, RE and center no.4
16th January 2015 Started decapeptyl 0.1
17th Jan Decapeptyl down to 1/2 ampule
18th Jan Started Stims: Menogon 75 x 6 daily and 1/2 decapeptyl.
27th Jan last decapeptyl and Trigger (2 x pregnyl) 10:30pm
29th Jan ER, 7 eggs retrieved, 5 mature
30th Jan 3 fertilized with frozen sperm (1 vial used)
1st Feb ET of remaining 2, 1 x 4-cell and 1 x 2-cell. Zero hope.
14th Feb Beta negative
17th Feb AF started.
IVF#12 (or 2.4) - February 2015. RE and center no.4
18th February 2015 Started Decapeptyl 0.1 half ampule.
19th Feb Started stims: Menogon 75 x 8 daily and 1/2 Decapeptyl.
1st March Trigger (2 x pregnyl)
3rd March ER, 5 eggs retrieved, 3 mature
4th March 2 fertilized with frozen sperm (1 vial used)
7th March ET of 1 perfect morula and one "more than 10 cells"
19th March Beta negative
22nd March AF started.
IVF#13 (or 2.5) - March 2015. RE no.2 again
23rd March 2015 Hysteroscopy done. Started stims: Merional 75 x 6 daily.
27th March Added cetrotide
2nd April Trigger (1 x pregnyl)
4th April ER, 10 eggs retrieved, 6 mature
6th April 1 fertilized with frozen sperm (1 vial used)
7th April Another one fertilized. ET of 1 x 4-cell and 1 x 6-cell
18th April Beta 111
20th April Beta 286
22nd April Beta 656
26th April Ultrasound showed tiny, tiny gestation al sac. Beta 1363 (doubling time 90 hours)
28th April Beta 1905 (doubling time 99 hours)
3rd May Ultrasound showed nothing. Natural miscarriage a few days later.
IVF#14 (or 2.6) - September 2015. RE no. 4 again
16 September 2015 Started stims: Gonal F x 225 plus Merional 225 daily.
22nd Sept Added cetrotide
24th Sept Trigger
26th Sept ER, 7 eggs retrieved, 3 mature
27th 1 fertilized with frozen sperm (1 vial used), another 1 fertilized later
Nothing left by day 5.
IVF 15 (or 2.7) - November 2015. RE no. 4 again
3 November 2015 Started stims. Menogon 450. Antagonist protocol
13 November Trigger
15 November ER, 8 eggs retrieved, 6 mature
16 November 5 fertilized
19 November ET of 3 grade 1 morulas and 1 8-cell.
30 November Beta #1: 148
2 December Beta #2: 395 (33 hour doubling time)
5 December Beta #3: 906 (60.5 hour doubling time)
16 December U/sn: one healthy bean with a good heartbeat!
Delivered our second boy in a planned CS in August 2016.
IVF 16 (or 3.1) - August 2018. RE no. 4 again
9 August 2018 Started stims. 4 x menogon and 2 x Ovaclomin, aspirin after AF.
14 August Increased Menogon to 6, plus estrofem x 2
15 August Added orgalutran shot daily
18 August 4 x menogon and increased estrofem to 3 x daily. Trigger: 3 x Ovitrelle 250.
20 August ER, 5 eggs retrieved, 3 mature
22 August Fert report, 1 fertilized.
25 August No transfer, embryo arrested.
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